Planning and Licensing Committee - Wednesday 14 May 2025, 2:00pm - Cotswold District Council Webcasting

Planning and Licensing Committee
Wednesday, 14th May 2025 at 2:00pm 

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  3. 04. Minutes of the meeting held on 9 April 2025 - Approve
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  13. 08. 21/01892/FUL - Poplars Barn, Moreton-in-Marsh - Defer
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Councillor Ray Brassington - 0:00:03
Right members, we'll make a start. Are we ready? Are we ready?
Darryl? Yes.
Yes, we're ready? Okay, thank you. Good afternoon and welcome to this meeting of Cotswold District
Council's Planning and Licensing Committee. My name is Councillor Ray Brastenden and I'm
Chair of this committee. Members, officers and members of the public, oh, not any. The

1 Apologies

The meeting is being live streamed and recorded on the Council's website.
Please can members and officers turn their microphones on while speaking and turn them
off so they may be seen and heard.
There is also no public here.
For those watching online, you can view the electronic voting record via the votes tab
on the webcast page which is available on the Council's website and will be recorded
in the minutes of this meeting. Should anything go wrong with the electronic voting, which
cannot resolve quickly, we will revert to voting by a clear show of hands.
All right, so we'll now move on to the agenda. And the first thing we do is introductions.
I've already introduced myself, so I'll introduce the members. So, Patrick.
Councillor Patrick Coleman - 0:01:24
Thank you chair. I'm Councillor Patrick Coleman, Vice -Chair of the Committee and
Councillor for Stratton Ward in Syrensister. Good afternoon I'm Councillor
Councillor David Fowles - 0:01:35
David Fowles, ward member for the Colne Valley. Good afternoon I'm Councillor
Councillor Daryl Corps - 0:01:42
Daryl Coore and I represent Moreton Marsh West in the north of the Cotswolds.
Councillor Andrew Maclean - 0:01:50
Hello, I'm Andrew McLean from the Rissingtons.
Councillor Mark Harris - 0:01:54
Hello, Mark Harris from Syrinsester Abbey Ward.
Councillor Julia Judd - 0:02:01
Good afternoon, I'm Julia Judd, Erwin Ward.
Councillor Dilys Neill - 0:02:08
Hello, I'm Dylis Neil and I represent Stone The Woldes with the Villages of Mugsbury and
the Swells.
Good afternoon, Ian Watson, Tepe -Chalm Ward.
Councillor Ian Watson - 0:02:18
Thank you. Now, officers, can we start with you, Helen, please?
Councillor Ray Brassington - 0:02:21
I'm Helen Bluntel, I'm interim head of legal services.
Helen Blundell, Legal Services - 0:02:25
I'm Harrison Bailey, I'm head of planning services.
Harrison Bowley, Planning - 0:02:29
I'm Helen Cooper, I'm senior planning officer.
Officer - 0:02:34
Officer - 0:02:38
I'm Graham Smith, planning case officer.
Julia Gibson, Officer - 0:02:42
Councillor Ray Brassington - 0:02:44
Any, no substitute members are there? No. No we've had apologies though from
Councillor Bairn. Yep thank you. Declarations of interests members,
anybody, anything we want to declare?

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3 Declarations of Interest

Councillor Ray Brassington - 0:03:00
No okay we'll now move on to the minutes of the last meeting. Anybody got any

4 Minutes

comments on the minutes? Councillor George.
Councillor Julia Judd - 0:03:09
Sorry, it's just an anxiety I'd rather get rid of. Obviously we all know the applicant
for one of the fellow Councillors. I just thought it maybe should be said.
Yes, thank you. Anybody got any comments on the minutes of the last meeting?
Councillor Ray Brassington - 0:03:28
Okay, so if somebody can approve them.
Councillor Colle and seconded by Councillor Patrick Colman.
So we'll now go to the vote on the accuracy of the minutes and acceptance.
So please vote.
Come on.
Three, seven, eight, nine.
Eight, nine.
Yeah.
Three, four, seven, eight.
Somebody missing?
Be nine hours here, isn't there?
Eight, seven, eight.
There we go. Thank you. So that is approved, the minutes are approved. We'll now go on
to the Chair's announcements.
I should recall at the last meeting,

5 Chair's Announcements

I announced that I would be stepping down as Chair.
So this is my last meeting as Chair.
So I'd just like to do some thank yous.
First of all, I'd like to thank all the staff involved
from Democratic Services, who put all this together for us
and make sure everything's flowing smoothly.
So thank you to those.
Thank you to legal, to Helen, your assistance.
And it's always nice reassuring that you
sitting there next to us to give us your legal opinions on it so we thank you and
also this is your last meeting.
It is yes.
Shall I say something?
Yes please.
I'm going to interrupt your thanks chair it's been a pleasure
Helen Blundell, Legal Services - 0:05:28
genuinely and I have to say this committee
conducts itself very professionally and I haven't have to say very much which is
a good sign I think and I will miss it in a small measure but I will be having
monitoring officer at Forest Dean District Council as of Monday and I'm sure I'll
have my hands full with that so think of me. Thank you. Thank you and
Councillor Ray Brassington - 0:05:53
we wish you
the best. Thank the planning officers. We're very lucky here we are very
professional dedicated and knowledgeable planning officers who make my job a
lot easier so I'd like to personally thank all the planning officers, not just those
who are present, but all of them.
And I'd also like to thank the support staff
in the planning department,
because they do a great deal of work
putting everything together for us.
And without them, we wouldn't be sitting here.
So, a thanks to all planning support staff
if you could pass on my...
Thanks. I'm grateful.
And thank you for all members.
Thank you for putting it up with me.
I hope I haven't upset you too much.
And I'd like to say a special thanks to Julia Judd, who was my Vice -Chair of the first year,
so thank you for you.
And finally, I'd like to thank Patrick, who is the Vice -Chair, who has helped me a great
deal over the last three years and has fully supported me, and I appreciate that very much,
so thank you, Patrick.
Thank you, it's been a pleasure.
Thank you.
Right.
I'll now...
I would...
Sorry.
Councillor Dilys Neill - 0:07:04
I'm sure the rest of us would like to thank you, Ralph, for the exemplary way in which
you've chaired the committee. You're always very fair and you're always extremely well
prepared, which is not always easy. So well done, thank you very much. Also to Patrick
and also to Helen. It's been just lovely to have you sitting up there on the front bench.
Could maybe give you a round of applause.
Councillor Ray Brassington - 0:07:32
Could I also echo that, and in my 20 years in this chamber, no one has
Councillor David Fowles - 0:07:36
shut me up quite like you have.
Councillor Ray Brassington - 0:07:45
Councillor Julia Judd - 0:07:46
May I just quickly add that the year that I had as your Vice Chair I think was an absolute
testament to how incredibly powerful it can be when two political parties come together
on a non -political committee because I think we were an admirable team and we did a great
job and supported one another. So thank you so much. You taught me a lot.

6 Public questions

7 Member questions

Councillor Ray Brassington - 0:08:11
Thank you. Item 6, public questions. I don't think we've got any. Members questions? No.
Okay. We'll now move on to the schedule of applications. The first item is outbuilding

Schedule of Applications

to the east of Poplar's Barn, Morton and Marsh. Harry's going to say a few words.

8 21/01892/FUL - Outbuilding to the East of Poplars Barn, Moreton-in-Marsh.

Harrison Bowley, Planning - 0:08:31
Yes, so unfortunately the case officer hasn't been able to make it over to medical reasons,
so we're going to propose to defer this item until they're available to come and present
it. And because it was on the agenda, we couldn't just remove it from the agenda, so instead
we're amending the recommendation to defer all to a later date. But we will have to vote
on that to ensure members are happy. But assuming we are, we'll obviously bring it back as soon
as we're able to.
Councillor George.
Councillor Julia Judd - 0:08:53
Councillor Ray Brassington - 0:08:55
Councillor Julia Judd - 0:08:56
On that basis I vote that we approve the senior officer's recommendation to defer.
So that application is deferred.
Councillor Ray Brassington - 0:09:24
We now move on to the next one.
Which is change of use of the site to a mixture of agricultural and equestrian land off Kingsill Lane to Whippet Lane, Preston, Simon and Sester.

9 25/00505/FUL - Land off Kingshill Lane to Witpit Lane, Cirencester

The applicant is Mrs Angela Percival, the agents of the Rural Planning Practice, case officer Helen Cooper, and the recommendation is to permit.
So Helen, could you give us your report please? Thank you.
Thank you, Chair.
Officer - 0:09:54
Yes, so this application has been brought to Planning Committee in accordance with the
scheme of delegation and planning protocol as the application site has an area exceeding
one hectare.
So I'm just going to get the slides up now for you.
So this is where the application site is located.
It comprises an agricultural field measuring approximately five and a half hectares in
area which is set on the edge and to the east of Preston.
The A419 runs parallel to the eastern boundary of the site and the public right of way runs
along the northern boundary.
The site benefits from existing field access with a hard surface area in its northwest
corner which provides parking and space for turning vehicles.
So the planning application seeks permission for change of use of the site to a mixture
of agricultural and equestrian use.
It should be highlighted that agricultural land can be used past relief for the grazing
of horses without a change of use taking place.
However, in this instance, to regularize the keeping of horses
at the site for personal use only, the applicant is seeking
planning commission.
And the applicant is currently keeping three horses
at the site.
And so this image here shows the field, and then you can see its
kind of position in relation to Presti.
And you can see the area in green is the conservation area
on the site location down there, so it's some distance away.
And it leads to some images of the field.
So there's the area of hard standing
that I was just referring to for the cars and the field gates.
So there is an existing field shelter on the site
which is currently used by the applicant.
However, planning permission is not being sought
for that structure as the applicant considers it
to be a temporary mobile structure.
It should be noted that the site isn't
in the national landscape.
However, as outlined in the neighborhood development plan
for Preston, the surrounding fields
in this area hold local landscape value and contribute positively to the rural
character of the village. The proposed change of use is considered to retain
the rural character of the site and in principle a mixed equestrian and
agricultural use is acceptable in a countryside location such as this. A
planning condition has been recommended and this restricts the use of the site
for private use and this will help minimize any potential impact on the
amenity of neighboring properties and kind of the highway safety implications.
The application is therefore considered to accord with all relevant policies
within the local plan and it is recommended that Planning Commission be
Councillor Ray Brassington - 0:12:21
approved. Thank you chair. Thank you very much. Board member he's not here. Did he
submit anything to be read out? No? No okay. So we'll now move on to questions
please members. We've got questions on this. Anybody got any questions?
Councillor Julia Judd - 0:12:37
Councillor Judd. Could you explain or clarify the sort of change of use aspect?
I mean, how does that affect how the land is considered from this point by the planning
officers?
Officer - 0:12:56
Yes, so in terms of agricultural use, if, like I've kind of said just then, if it were
to be used for the grazing of horses, it doesn't really need a change of use to equestrian
use.
It's kind of quite a finely balanced distinction, so when it tips over to needing the equestrian
use.
You know, for instance, if they're kind of keeping horses
permanently on site, which is really the intention,
but they're also intending to use it agriculturally.
I think they're proposing to use it really for hay,
so you know, they're just going to be kind of mowing the longer
grass and kind of create, it's part of the agricultural use.
But they would just run alongside each other.
Councillor Julia Judd - 0:13:33
Sorry, just to clarify.
So is it still agricultural land?
Officer - 0:13:42
Yes, it would have a mixed use, so they can use it for
equestrian purposes or agricultural or one or some
parts of the field, it's envisaged, will be used
agriculturally for the hay growing, and other parts will
have the horses on it.
It's a very large site, five and a half hectares, so they
planning on rotating the horses around the field to kind of graze parcels of land.
So yes, so a mixture.
Councillor Julia Judd - 0:14:08
It's a terribly complicated answer to what I think is a very simple question.
Has the way the land is considered by the Planning Department changed at all by this
application if it's approved?
Officer - 0:14:23
Yes, it will have an equestrian use as well as the agricultural, so yes.
Thank you. That answers my question.
Thank you. Councillor Harris.
Councillor Ray Brassington - 0:14:32
Councillor Mark Harris - 0:14:34
Thanks very much. Just a quick declaration.
I have a rental unit on Preston Village Farm,
so I'll just say that.
I don't know the applicant or anything like that,
but I do know the land pretty well.
It is very large, and it is by the 417,
so it's not a very peaceful area, I have to say.
Look, there's been no objections from anybody.
You're recommending permit. It's a change of use.
It seems to me that I find it very hard to find a reason not to support this.
But I noticed that one representation from Pine Corner, and they've said that the field shelter has resulted in smell of manure and so on and so forth in summer weather.
They have said they're quite happy. They don't really have an objection to this.
Is there any way we can condition it to ensure that maybe that field shelter is never less than x
meters or whatever from from
residential property
No, unfortunately, they're not actually seeking permission for the
Officer - 0:15:31
field shelter. So we can't
It's not something that could be considered under this application because they're applying they're not applying for that aspect
Because they don't believe it needs planning commissioners. They're considering it to be a temporary structure. So we
Councillor Mark Harris - 0:15:48
Could we then say, yes, you can use it for equestrian purposes, however, no field shelter
to the storage of manure can be within a X metre radius of residential property. So we're
not relating to the existing one, we're saying anything that happens on equestrian land cannot
interfere with the...
Generally, anything equestrian requires planning permission anyway
Harrison Bowley, Planning - 0:16:13
because they don't benefit
from permitted development rights.
Condition 6 removes PD rights for walls or fences which could, in theory, be erected.
We could add structures into that if members wanted a belt and braces approach, although
I would tend to say I don't think it's necessary because equestrian uses don't have PD rights.
Any permanent development on the site would require planning permission in its own right.
The reason this one doesn't is because it is a temporary movable structure, so in planning
terms isn't development, so we have no control over it, which
is sort of why we can't control that one.
But could we control the storage of manure?
Officer - 0:16:50
Well, I have kind of recommended an informative at the end of the
Commission after kind of, you know, which basically says it
could, if it were to cause a statutory nuisance, there are,
we do have steps that we can take that's really in the
applicant's interest to try and manage it effectively.
And again, they are rotating the horses around the site, and their
plan is to harrow the manure kind of into the ground so not actually
proposing to have manure heaps anywhere which will help matters all trailers so
really that was kind of considered to be sufficient the emphasis is placed on
them but there are steps we can take if it did cause a nuisance statutory
nuisance we can take steps to manage that. Thank you. Councillor Caul.
Councillor Ray Brassington - 0:17:29
Councillor Daryl Corps - 0:17:32
Councillor Harris has asked the very question I was going to ask and it's been
answered. The Pyne corner, that is just a comment, not an objection, is that right?
Officer - 0:17:51
I believe so. I think it has gone on to the public access system as a general comment.
Say that and I will pass. Just trying to determine the actual, the
Councillor Ray Brassington - 0:18:06
effect is having on them if it was an objection and it obviously does have quite a...
It's in paragraph 8 .1.
Yeah.
So that observation.
Just an observation, thank you.
Have we got any more questions, members?
Councillor Neill.
Councillor Dilys Neill - 0:18:22
Yeah, just one of your recommendations, conditions.
Number four is about external lighting. Have they actually applied?
Is there intention to put external lighting there? I didn't see that there was.
Officer - 0:18:31
not the time aware of that there isn't an but if they did propose it would just
make sure we have control over it if they did put any but I don't believe
any proposed by this and that again there's no services connected to the
field shelter itself so they would have to come back yeah
Councillor Ray Brassington - 0:18:46
Councillor Julia Judd - 0:18:50
Chancellor Judd just very quickly at the moment the fields shelter is mobile
would they be allowed to fix it if it caused a problem?
Officer - 0:19:03
No, they wouldn't need to. If it were to be fixed permanently to ground it would then be operational development which would require planning permission.
So they would need to come back to us.
Thank you.
Councillor Julia Judd - 0:19:12
Councillor Ray Brassington - 0:19:15
No more questions? Move on to comments please.
Councillor Clay.
Councillor Andrew Maclean - 0:19:24
I'd just quite like to simply propose that we accept the Office's recommendation to permit this.
I second that.
Councillor Julia Judd - 0:19:32
Councillor Ray Brassington - 0:19:42
Any more comments? Will we go to a vote?
No? Okay, we'll now go to a vote please.
Councillor David Fowles - 0:19:51
That's another full house.
Councillor Ray Brassington - 0:20:00
That application is permitted.
Thank you, Helen.
Councillor David Fowles - 0:20:05
Councillor Ray Brassington - 0:20:08
Just have a change of seats now.
Councillor David Fowles - 0:20:11
Councillor Ray Brassington - 0:20:22
I have members got the updated report in front of them.
Everybody has got the correct report.
Councillor David Fowles - 0:20:30
Councillor Ray Brassington - 0:20:36
Can you switch your microphone off please, Councillor Fowl?
Councillor David Fowles - 0:20:42
Councillor Ray Brassington - 0:21:09
We'll move on to the next application. This is for the construction of agricultural building
at the Barnhales Farm, Clavis Hill, Jedworth. The applicant is Mr Jeremy Thayer. Case officer
is Graham Smith. Recommendation is to permit. So over to you now, Graham, for your report please.
Officer - 0:21:29
Thank you, Chair. The application has been brought to planning committee because the applicant is
a ward councillor. The application is for an agricultural building
relevant to the applicants land holding of about 1 .1 hectares. The applicant's own
residence which is the barn which members may recall from the committee a
couple of months ago is located to the south of the site. The application
site includes an existing stable building that was granted planning permission in 2019.
There was also a temporary permission for a polytunnel located to the north of the stable
building. That temporary permission has expired and the building has been removed.
The proposed site plan is for an agricultural building that would be located directly to
the north of the stable building.
It would be constructed predominantly of concrete blocks at base level, timber cladding above

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that and then with a corrugated steel roof which would be coloured dark green.
So it's a fairly atypical, modern, agricultural building of fairly, materials are commonplace
throughout the district.
Floor plan, simple, open, used for basically for the storage of fodder relating to the
applicants flock of sheep.
Here's some photographs.
That's the existing stable building.
Another looking, that's looking actually towards the applicants
residence which is to the south of the application site.
It's a site looking to the north.
And again to the north.
Just looking to the north with the stable building should be in the background.
The site is surrounded by a number of public footpaths.
There is a restrictive byway that runs to the north.
That forms a northern boundary.
There are views across the valley from Cheap Street,
looking towards the tree line.
There's two banks of trees, one in the foreground of the site,
and then one to the rear by the restricted byway.
So north of the site where the restricted byway is,
You can get glimpsed views through the tree line.
They are glimpsed views.
It is quite a dense bank of woodland and planting.
Councillor Ray Brassington - 0:25:06
Yes, the recommendation is for approval. Thank you, Chair.
We have had comments from the board member, Councillor Hodgson, who says he's got no issues.
He's happy with that. So we're now going to members' questions. Questions, please.
Councillor Harris. At our last meeting one of my colleagues very very wisely
Councillor Mark Harris - 0:25:40
expressed concern that a particular building wasn't necessarily redundant
and disused as it had been erected in 2015 and therefore you know should it
really be converted into residential accommodation and and he said again very
wisely that he thought that that policy EC6 was designed for old barns and things like
that, not stables that were built in 2015. Is there a danger, I mean I'm only putting
this out there, that in five years' time we're sitting here, well probably won't be us, but
the local planning authority in five years' time is considering an application under whatever
the equivalent of EC6 is there because the applicant needs more room to spread their
family around.
Harrison Bowley, Planning - 0:26:40
Unfortunately, this could be that age old on a case by case basis on its own merits.
There's nothing stopping us, you know, someone submitting an application to us in five, ten
years.
We would have to consider it at the time based on the policies we have adopted at that time.
So it's entirely possible that in five years' time the local parish council or some objector
be saying, oh, they only did this in order to get property through.
Okay.
Councillor Mark Harris - 0:27:04
That's really my only question on this.
Thank you.
Councillor Fowls.
Councillor Ray Brassington - 0:27:11
Well, I think it was me that made those comments.
Councillor David Fowles - 0:27:12
In fact, I know it was, looking across at Councillor Harris.
There is a comment that was sent to the parish council about that this building was not necessary
on such a small site.
And I know that the applicant, who is a colleague, obviously,
is talking about storing agricultural, you know,
food for sheep on that.
It seems to me to be, again, you may say this is not relevant,
seems to me that this is a very substantial structure in terms
of concrete for the storage of agricultural fodder.
Is that relevant to this?
Basically, as I understand it from the policy, it's a piece of agricultural land, it's demonstrated
a need and therefore we are obliged to accept your recommendation even though we had a previous
application to make a property larger, slightly, well you can see it from the photograph.
So I think my direction of travel is very similar to that of Councillor Harris, but
I gather from what the documentation says is that we've got no control of it.
So in theory, in the future, there could be a change of views, couldn't there?
Yeah, I'm assuming that.
But we're judging it on its merits here.
Yeah, it just seems a very, I'll come to it under comments.
But do they have, does the building, you said that there's been a,
you're happy that he's proven the need for a building of this size and of this construction.
Could you just confirm that that is your stated view?
That is correct
Officer - 0:28:50
Councillor if you look at paragraph 10 .8
We've looked at the the size of the structure in relation to the size of the flock and looked at it against the agricultural
budgeting and
Costings book recommendations, and it is it is in line with that so that the building is
Is appropriately sized for the size of the flock?
That would be using the site
In terms of the applicant's own residence, I wasn't quite sure whether you were linking the two in your comments there, but those two are completely separate issues in planning terms.
It's a separate application, I'm looking under comments.
Councillor Ray Brassington - 0:29:34
On clarity, on the size of the building.
Thank you.
Councillor Colman.
Councillor Patrick Coleman - 0:29:42
Yes, I was made aware just before the meeting that one of the objections comes from somebody
fairly close to the site who I do know to the extent that her daughters were taught
singing by my wife and she once entertained my wife and myself for a meal.
However, I've only seen this person once in the last eight or nine years and so I consider
that I should declare it but I don't consider that it's a material interest.
You're happy with that Helen?
Yes, I'm fine.
Thank you.
Councillor Ray Brassington - 0:30:16
Councillor Watson?
I'll answer that question.
No, Councillor Neill?
Sorry, I'll start again.
Councillor Dilys Neill - 0:30:46
I note that the conservation officer has written their objection to this development, partly
on the grounds that it was based on the previous application for the polytunnel and that the
vegetation has grown since then.
So there is a detailed landscaping condition attached.
Would that include that vegetation which is, I couldn't quite work it out, which the conservation
officer has mentioned as acting as a screening for the building, or would that be included
in the landscaping scheme?
I don't know whether that vegetation is under the control of the applicant or whether
it's been offered to somebody else, essentially.
Officer - 0:31:43
The vegetation is, will be partially under the control
of the applicant.
The main control we have over the vegetation is that it's
within a conservation area.
So any removal of the trees would require our permission.
Councillor Ray Brassington - 0:32:03
Yeah, we've got condition number five, which requires a 10 -year
landscape and ecological management plan. But it concerned me that the vegetation
Councillor Dilys Neill - 0:32:10
that's mentioned by the Conservation Office and might not belong to the
applicants so it would be difficult to keep it under control but Mr. Smith
answered that so thanks. Any more questions?
Councillor Ray Brassington - 0:32:23
Councillor Julia Judd - 0:32:25
Councillor Judd. Is there any sort of restriction for what it should be
it should be useful. I mean if you said the Planning Commission
states here that it's for feed for sheep
but if that was changed
to machinery or something like that does that does that affect the the
the application the way it seemed by officers say in the future?
I mean, I know that sounds a weird question, but it's just
that if it's, if this planning application is for a barn,
why say that it's for sheep food?
Officer - 0:33:12
Dr. Robert Poulton -Davies We've looked at it on its own merits
based on the information provided by the applicant.
The applicant is a sheep farmer.
They have also got aspirations, I understand, for equestrian
use because the stables were granted on the basis of horses.
So we would be looking at partial use for horses in terms
of stabling, but predominantly it is for sheep grazing and
related to that.
I mean, that's quite interesting.
So this isn't necessarily for sheep food.
Councillor Julia Judd - 0:33:54
It's for sheep food and or stapling.
So...
Officer - 0:34:02
There are two, there is one building on the site that was
granted planning permission and a reference to a 2019 reference.
That application had two aspects to it.
One was the stabling for horses, which was granted permission on a permanent basis and
has been constructed by the applicant.
The second aspect to it was the polytunnel, which related to the storage of fodder for
the flock.
I understand that.
Councillor Julia Judd - 0:34:36
I was just confused why you brought in the stabling with your previous comment, but I
think you were referring to the stabling that's already there.
Thank you.
Councillor Ray Brassington - 0:34:47
Helen Blundell, Legal Services - 0:34:48
just clarifying. Helen? I'm just from reading the report it said in 10 .8
going back to Paragon template agricultural building recommendations for
sheep 30 square meters for housing livestock stock hundred square meters
for storing fodder and the remaining 27 square meters providing some
flexibility as well as storing the applicants machinery which is not
unreasonable so it seems to be an acknowledgement it's going to have a
Councillor Ray Brassington - 0:35:17
Councillor Mark Harris - 0:35:18
Any more questions?
Councillor Ray Brassington - 0:35:20
Given that the applicant has been a sheep farmer for a number of years, a lot of years,
can I just clarify, where is he currently storing his feed?
Do we know?
Is it in the buildings that have been pulled down and therefore currently he's got nowhere
to store it or is it stored somewhere else?
Councillor David Fowles - 0:35:41
I'm just intrigued to know why we are being presented this application,
given he's been a sheep farmer for a number of years,
and I would assume he's got some other storage.
Well, I mean, obviously he had the polytunnel where that's stored.
That's where he stored it, as far as you know.
Up to the point it was removed after the temporary period,
and after that he's been in a state of limbo with where he stores it.
Well, the bales are stored on the site in plastic bags.
There was a photograph of that earlier on.
So he used the current structure which has been removed for the storage and he now has removed that
and wishes to create this new structure to put the feed in, bearing in mind the comments being made by Councillors Harris and Judd.
That's correct.
Thank you.
Any more questions?
Councillor Caw?
Councillor Ray Brassington - 0:36:34
Councillor David Fowles - 0:36:35
Thank you, just one. I realise there's conditions in place for, because the
concerns of the parish council about light pollution from being quite an
exposed position. I realise there are conditions in place for external
Councillor Ray Brassington - 0:36:45
lighting but
Councillor David Fowles - 0:36:47
obviously I haven't got detailed plans here of the actual structure. Are there
any windows that run along the side of the building that might cause any
concern for light pollution relating to the parish council's comments?
There are no windows proposed in the structure.
The applicant is not specifically proposing any external lighting.
However, we felt it appropriate to control any proposals for external lighting, given the Dark Skies policy and its location within the countryside in Jedworth.
So yeah, I mean the applicant would have to come back with an application for external lighting.
Councillor Ray Brassington - 0:37:33
Any more questions? No, move on to comments please.
Councillor Watson.
Councillor David Fowles - 0:37:40
Yeah, thank you Chair. I really have no problem about the size of this agricultural building.
Again, the flexibility to use for laming, fodder, machinery storage and all normal control.
day -to -day operation, so I don't have any problems at all with the size of the building.
I think it is suitable for its purpose.
Councillor Ray Brassington - 0:38:06
Thank you. Councillor Harris.
Councillor David Fowles - 0:38:09
Yeah, I mean, notwithstanding my earlier comments about the potential of an equivalent of EC6 in a few years' time,
I agree with Councillor Watson that I don't have any objection to it,
Councillor Mark Harris - 0:38:22
I would like to propose that we vote for the officer's recommendation to permit.
Thank you.
Councillor Ray Brassington - 0:38:27
Councillor Jude?
Councillor Julia Judd - 0:38:32
Yes, I obviously know Jeremy very well and I know that he is not just a sheep farmer
but he is a sheep farmer of pockets of land all over the Cotswolds and that man works
so hard, so hard to keep his business going and boy it'd be such a nice thing to be able
to grant him permission for his barn to make his business easier today. And I second Councillor
Harris. Who did it? Harris. Thank you very much. Councillor Harris'
Councillor Ray Brassington - 0:39:03
recommendation to
permit. Any other comments for Councillor Fowles?
Well, I'm going to agree with Councillors Judd and Harris.
Councillor David Fowles - 0:39:13
I'm perhaps a bit overly cynical about the future use of this structure, but based on
the application and the use and the officer's very convincing argument, I will agree with
the officer's recommendation.
Councillor Corb?
Councillor Ray Brassington - 0:39:29
Councillor Daryl Corps - 0:39:31
I was just going to second it, but Councillor Judd got in there first.
Councillor Ray Brassington - 0:39:34
No other comments?
Kate will now go to a vote. The vote is to permit.
Councillor Ray Brassington - 0:39:53
Got another full house, so that is permitted.
Go back to the agenda very briefly.
Sites inspection briefing, if needed, on the 4th of June.
have anything to those councils could make a note just in case licensing
subcommittee that's being canceled the council yeah okay so that that concludes
the meeting then I just like to wish the next year all the best of luck
Councillor House.
As I won't be on the committee after the next, the annual meeting, I'd like to say I've really, really enjoyed it.
Councillor Mark Harris - 0:40:39
I mean that's been splendid. But it would also mean that if there is a site inspection I wouldn't be able to make it as well.
Councillor Ray Brassington - 0:40:46
Who said you were allowed to leave the committee?
I really miss the reflection of the time.
Thank you very much.

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