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Councillor Joe Harris - 0:00:01
Good evening everybody. Welcome to May's Cotswold District Council cabinet meeting.
We shall start the meeting with apologies.

1 Apologies

I haven't had any and we believe Councillor McEwen is on the way so we will hopefully he'll be joining us very soon.
Declarations of interest. We've got two from Councillor Layton and Councillor Hodgkinson.

2 Declarations of Interest

Do you just want to make those known please Paul?
Councillor Paul Hodgkinson - 0:00:29
Yes on the item related to the cultural national landscape board. I am on the board of that organization by virtue of my
GCC
Appointment to it and I receive a very small allowance for that
So just getting clarification as to how that works in terms of the declaration of interest
Or active those members left
Angela Claridge - 0:00:51
Councillor Claire Bloomer - 0:01:00
Councillor Juliet Layton - 0:01:04
Will we be able to present that or do I not do that?
You are happy with that?
I am on the executive board for this so we will have voted already as board members for this.
Yeah, okay.

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Councillor Joe Harris - 0:01:25
Turn the mic on. We now turn to minutes of the previous meeting held on the 3rd of April.
Does anybody have any
comments or questions as to the accuracy of those?
Okay.
I'll propose those then. If I could have a seconder mic, thank you.
We'll then move to the vote.
Thank you.
That's unanimous.
Thanks very much.
Okay, then.
Leader's Announcements is the next item.

4 Leader's Announcements

Well, as you can see, the Council Chamber is festooned in union flags.
We had a very moving, actually, and interesting session here in the Council Chamber yesterday
where councillors, members of staff and some invited members of the community
joined us to commemorate V -Day, Victory in Europe Day. And you know I think our
guest of honour was Alan Macquillan who many of you will know who lives in
Kemble and 102 years old. Probably one of the oldest residents but the reason he's
so remarkable is he is a D -Day veteran. So I know he's known to many of you guys
But it's always nice to see Mac as he's known.
And hearing his stories is amazing, actually.
It's certainly one to tell the grandchildren when you consider
we're 80 years on from the end of the second boy.
It's just incredible.
And I think talking to him, his message is absolutely clear.
We can't let it happen again.
The tyranny of fascism, it might seem like a thing of the past.
But when you look at what's happening and the rhetoric we see across the world now,
and an increasingly dangerous world, you know, I think we all need to heed Alan's example
and his generation's example.
You know, they fought for freedom against fascism.
And you know, that is the, when we say we will remember them, every remembrance service,
and, you know, remembrance in November, we remember them, of course, but we remember
what the sacrifice was for.
And I think that's the message I'll certainly take away.
And I know yesterday it's fascinating to hear
from a couple of representatives from the Tepary
and the Fairford Historical Society who told us about
just some of the things that their communities did
in the Second World War.
And it really was fascinating.
The Cotswold District had a really important part to play
with the number of airfields.
But it was also great to hear some of the lighter side.
We didn't have many casualties here in the Second World War,
But one was a cow that was blown up.
An exploding cow in Tetbury.
And the newspaper article reporting on that,
it was very funny.
So yeah, I'd encourage you.
Paul, you're into your history, aren't you?
Go and speak to Tetbury and Fairfield Historical Society.
And encourage everybody to learn about what happened here
in the Cotswold district back in the Second World War.
So yeah, I'd like to, if you don't mind,
And if everybody could stand, we'll have a minute's silence to remember those who have
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Councillor Joe Harris - 0:05:45
As many of you know, this will be my last cabinet meeting as leader of Cotswold District
Council.
It's been an interesting six years, that's for sure.
I think I've worked out that I've chaired approximately 60
of these meetings over six years.
And, you know, it has been, I've said it before, it's been the
honor of my life to, you know, lead this council.
I've been a member on this council now for, I think, 14
years, I think, which is a long time.
And despite only being 32, I think I'm one of the longest
serving members and probably one of the most cynical now.
So that's not very good, is it?
I'm only joking.
You know, there are a couple of things I just want to put
on record.
I think the first of all is a massive thank you to all of the
Cabinet members that I've served with over the past six years.
I think we've got a totally new, apart from Mike, a totally new
set of faces from my first cabinet, but, you know, what has remained constant is the support,
the leadership that all of you guys have shown in your various areas and the desire to really
improve the Cotswolds.
So a big thank you to all of the cabinet members.
Of course, thank you to the wider group that support us as well, and councillors of all
parties for the trust that they've put in me and for the scrutiny and for the, you know,
role as a critical friend I think that is really really important. Of course
thank you to you know the hundreds of officers that I've worked with over the
past six years. Rob can't be here this evening but to Rob in particular, to David,
to Angela, to Nigel Adams before them, to Jan Britton and of course the countless
staff across Cotswold District Council and Publica. I know we're in a period of
great transition at the minute not only within our own council but also with the
of local government reorganization.
It's testament to the hard work that all of you guys put in,
that, you know, we're an area that provides good services
to the public.
It remains beautiful.
It remains a clean, nice place to be.
And do we have our challenges?
Absolutely, yes, we do.
But, you know, I'm confident that as I, you know, stand down
as leader and hand over to somebody else, you know,
I'm absolutely confident that that work will continue.
So a massive thank you to all of our to all of our staff and
officers at Cotswold district Council for all the support over
the past.
However many years six years and you know, I'll say a bit more
at the council meeting in about 10 days 10 days time.
But yeah big thanks also want to offer big congratulations.
I think we can go public now and congratulate Mike who was elected
as leader of the Lib Dem group last night and will therefore
go forward to the council meeting as our nominee for council leader and barring
some disaster, one would hope, you're a shoo -in. So you know Mike, you know to you in
particular, you've been a source of great strength, you've been a critical
friend at times to be fair, but I think that's what it's all about isn't it? You
don't just want a deputy who's gonna, you know, tell you what we want to hear. You
want somebody who can challenge you, who can support you, and somebody you can
rely on and all of those things I've been able to rely on with you Mike.
So you know you'll be a fantastic council leader. You're a survivor, you're
the only one left in the cabinet when I started so I think that in itself is
absolutely something. So no I'm really looking forward to continue to work with
you but obviously from the back benches rather than as leader in the cabinet so
congratulations Mike and we look forward to hearing from you in a in a couple of
But there we go, that's enough self -congratulations and so on.
Let's move on to our agenda.
So our first item is public questions.
We've got Andy at the back.

5 Public Questions

Would you like to ask a question tonight, Andy?
That's surprisingly enough.
Okay, well, you're more than welcome.
But okay, thanks, Andy.

6 Member Questions

Thank you for being a very fair and good opponent in the local elections last week.
We haven't got any member questions that have been submitted.

7 Schedule of Decisions taken by the Leader of the Council and/or Individual Cabinet Members

therefore move on to schedules of decisions taken by the leader of the
council or individual cabinet members this is just for noting and you can see
there we've got one which is made by Councillor Layton in her role as cabinet
member for housing and planning and it was decision about the Chipping Camden
Town Council neighbourhood plan so just for noting and if you're at home you can
look at that on the council's website. Item 8 is issues arising from review and

8 Issue(s) Arising from Overview and Scrutiny and/or Audit and Governance

scrutiny or our audit and governance committee we've got one and one
recommendation which pertains to public conveniences. So the recommendation is
that council gives a high priority to implementing the recommendations from
the public conveniences working group that were agreed by cabinet on the 1st
of February. Councillor Wilkinson was there answering questions for the
cabinet. I think that recommendation is fair and we agreed to that. So we agreed
to that and we will incorporate that as we go forward. Okay our next item then is

9 Rural England Prosperity Fund 2025/26 (REPF) Update

the Rural England Prosperity Fund 2526 update and we're going to pass over to
Councillor Wilkinson for that item and Mike does have a little bit of support
from Paul James, our lead officer. Thank you. Thank you, leader. Thank
Councillor Tristan Wilkinson - 0:11:21
you to everybody.
Paul, you're just sitting down all day.
All right.
I like that.
It's my first year.
You're just being energetic.
I've been sitting down all day.
Anyway, I shall continue.
Do I stand up to salute?
Is that something else?
So anyway, I shall continue.
I'd like to start by thanking Paul and the team.
We had a really good call this week with regards to this,
reviewing some of the applications.
There's some brilliant applications.
And also, I think that the process that we're going through
is really fair, really transparent, and I think will
get us to a really good short list.
A little bit of a summary.
This is money that is given to us in grant form directly
from government.
It's one of the rare opportunities now where we can
actually provide direct support to community groups, local
charities, local organizations that have some sort of kind of
support for the objectives that we set out as a council.
This latest funding is less than it has been in the last two
years, but altogether represents just under a million pounds
over a three -year period.
So, you know, a significant help to small organizations whose
direct funding from other sources is becoming increasingly
hard to access.
So, you know, small amounts of money to a large group of
organizations really does make a difference.
I think that our due diligence around what we get for that
money and going back to revisiting those I think is
really, really helpful.
I think the one thing that I want to make the Cabinet aware
of today is that one of the big caveats for spending this money
is that the projects have to be completed within year.
So anything that goes outside of this financial year
could cause problems.
So there is an element of kind of quick decisions
we need to make.
So I'm keen that the Cabinet approve the recommendations
for today so that we can get final approval from the full
council, hopefully in 10 days' time, so that we can crack on
with the process that we've identified,
we can then inform the lucky recipients of their awards
and they can get on and start investing that money
into our community.
So, I'm going to leave it there.
Paul, if you'd like to add anything that I may have missed.
Nothing to add at this stage?
Thank you.
Officer - 0:14:03
Councillor Tristan Wilkinson - 0:14:03
I'm happy to take any questions or challenges.
Hey, Claire.
Yeah, this is great.
Community buildings, we need to be building our communities.
Councillor Claire Bloomer - 0:14:11
I think this is lovely as part of it.
And the one thing I would say, and I think I've said it before,
is, and I'm sorry to repeat it, is, you know,
we're very well known for what we might not do as councillors,
but I think it's always great to be able to celebrate the work
that we are doing and the difference that we are making
to our communities.
So I would just once again say it would be great
if we could make sure that our logos or, you know,
anything that's being done that this has been partly funded
by CDC I think is absolutely crucial.
But well done.
Paul?
Councillor Tristan Wilkinson - 0:14:45
Yeah, lots of good stuff in this, Tristan, particularly,
I think, in terms of the split.
Councillor Joe Harris - 0:14:50
Councillor Paul Hodgkinson - 0:14:52
So improving health and well -being, 20 percent,
we're suggesting, aren't we?
Development of the visitor economy, and the 20 percent,
obviously, those are two cabinet parts of my cabinet portfolio.
I think they're both very, very important, actually.
I wanted to ask you a question about the time scale, because in
3 .2 it talks about an additional period of three weeks is allowed
for other applications to come forward.
Just want to sort of clarify then.
We go away, we vote for this today.
What happens next in terms of time scale?
How long will that time scale be?
Councillor Tristan Wilkinson - 0:15:26
So I'll ask Paul to keep me honest on this one,
but I think that the three weeks relates to,
there's two buckets of funding.
One is exclusively for capital and one could be used for revenue.
So I think it's making sure that the balance between those two things.
So there's the opportunity if an applicant is unsuccessful in one,
in applying for something that requires capital and revenue,
if they're unsuccessful in that, they could still go forward to the next phase to apply for capital.
So that's my understanding.
If I'm completely wrong, Paul is about to put me right in a very public way.
So in terms of what happens next, if cabinet approves tonight, we'll look to get the application
Officer - 0:16:07
form on the website ASAP. It's ready to go. And look to get applications in by the end
of this month. So that will be done, I look over at David at this, but that will be done
subject to approval by full council on the 21st. Once those applications are in, we'll
follow the same process as before,
so they'll be scored,
they'll go to the assessment panel
made up of internal and external stakeholders,
and then ultimately if the recommendations
are approved, the decision -making sits
with chief executive in consultation
with Tristan as cabinet member.
Councillor Joe Harris - 0:16:47
Julia.
Thank you.
Councillor Juliet Layton - 0:16:52
That actually was my question,
but I will extend that because that's given me an answer
because I wasn't sure, I thought that what Paul said was,
I was expecting really.
How do you advertise this?
How does it go out to the businesses or communities
that we've got this funding and we're asking for people
to bring forth their projects?
Officer - 0:17:17
So the usual kind of channels, we'll do a press release,
we'll put it on the social media,
as I mentioned it will be on the website,
but obviously people have got to find that.
that will put it in our Business Matters newsletter.
I think it's fair to say that word gets out when there's money
available because we have been contacted by various
organisations already in anticipation of applications
becoming open.
And I think as far as the UK Shared Prosperity Fund money
that we've already been through an open application process for,
we didn't struggle for applications for that.
We had applications for three times the amount of money that's available.
So I don't anticipate any trouble in either retracting applications or spending the money.
Great.
Well, thank you.
Councillor Joe Harris - 0:18:05
So we've got Tristan proposing that.
Mikey seconding?
You said you would.
I'm seconding.
I'll second it then.
I'm checking.
Any other comments or questions?
Nicky, if we can get to the vote, please.
Oh, got you.
No, sorry.
Councillor Coleman over there loitering, what would you like to say? That's not going to work.
If you come to the public speaking and try not to destroy the council chamber on the way.
Public Speaker - 0:18:37
That's better, how about that? Yes, Patrick Coleman, Spartan. Serious point, in paragraph 2 .4 it refers to the four sub themes, but there are actually five.
The vice -support to business, development of the business
economy, bringing businesses together,
tackling homelessness and improved health and well -being.
And in paragraph 3 .1, we've got four of those,
but we haven't got tackling homelessness.
And I think possibly a clarification after the meeting
in writing might be helpful.
Because I don't think it's got to get.
We could probably get that now.
So if you turn your mic off.
There's either.
Actually, if you could turn your mic off, please.
I don't know if Paul or Tristan want to pick that one up.
Councillor Joe Harris - 0:19:18
The, from memory, and I need to double check this
to be absolutely sure, in the government's wording of it,
Officer - 0:19:26
they tack on the tackling homelessness to one
of the other, and I think it's improving health and wellbeing.
But yeah, but I think when using exactly the government's wording
for it sounded a little bit odd, but there are only the four.
Councillor Joe Harris - 0:19:44
Okay, thank you for clarifying Paul. Right then, Nick you'll be queued to the vote.
Akira, thank you.
Lovely, that is unanimous. Thank you very much.
Our next item then is the Potsford District Council Renewable Energy Study.

10 Cotswold District Council Renewable Energy Study January 2025

Councilman Kuehn has just texted me and unfortunately can't make it tonight.
So I'm going to, I'm springing this on one of our officers, Jasper, which is very unfair
of me.
But Jasper, if you could just in as plain English as you can explain what this is about
and yeah, just introduce it for us, please.
Yes.
Officer - 0:20:22
So this is about the Kosovo District Renewable Energy Study, which was done by the Centre
for Sustainable Energy in Bristol.
It was commissioned by the District Council to help reach its goal to become Green to the Core.
The study has two main strands.
One, it looked at the Council estate to see how it can be brought into more carbon neutral.
And the second strand is it looks at the district, the wider district, and how through planning policy,
So it makes a whole range of recommendations on how through policy the district can become greener or green to the core as we want to be.
The ask of cabinet here is basically to be aware of the study as it will be used and ask to endorse it as an evidence base for future council policies.
Councillor Joe Harris - 0:21:21
Brilliant. Thank you, Jasper. You did very well. Yeah, I think just to add to that, I think this has been a quite comprehensive piece of work.
And, you know, clearly we have a local plan and policies in that, but it will help us as we shape future policies.
It really gives us an idea of, you know, what we're doing and how we can try and mitigate our carbon footprint.
So, yes, I think it is, when we hear so much at the minute about
renewable energy and we hear people on the right of politics
basically saying we should give up on our climate obligations,
I think actually we're showing that there is a real opportunity
with renewable energy to invest in it, to create policy for it,
and to help facilitate it in our district.
And that makes total sense because ultimately the more
renewable energy have, the more secure our energy is,
and it also is cheaper for the consumer at the very end
of the path.
So, no, Jasper, thank you very much.
Are there any questions from cabinet members?
Yeah, Kristen.
So I really welcome this.
I think, you know, it's really important.
Councillor Tristan Wilkinson - 0:22:33
So in consideration of the recommendations,
Are there any likely conflicts with kind of the planning guidelines?
So does it set up contradictions that are known to us at the moment in terms of planning
guidelines?
I don't think there's any contradictions.
Officer - 0:22:54
I think in some places it goes further, but we are allowed to do that.
So I don't think it would ever bring us into trouble.
but yes, it goes further than I think what national policy asks us to do.
Thank you very much. Mike?
Councillor Joe Harris - 0:23:12
Councillor Mike Evemy - 0:23:13
Thank you, Chair. I think it's obviously an excellent piece of work.
I thank Jasper and the officers for bringing this forward.
Clearly there are, and you'll be surprised, Joe, colleagues, that I've looked at the financial implications sections of the report.
And, you know, clearly any investment will require business cases if we're going to
have projects. And obviously the cost of the fund, the cost of the report itself
and the work that's been done has been funded through the local plan reserve
because it's supporting the update of our local plan. But yeah, I just really
wanted to point out that clearly obviously as we want to develop more in
this case we're going to have to look at the financials and balance that against
you know obviously other constraints that we've got but you know it's a great
piece of work I think for us to use as a base going forward in terms of how we
how we want to shape a district for the future.
Patrick.
Public Speaker - 0:24:25
Sorry, thank you, Chair. At least you won't have this problem with me again. It's a very
minor point, Chair, which is that the annexes are not actually included in this report and
I wondered if they could be circulated. We go from the, we go through the chapters, the
The last one is achieving net zero, but the annex BCDENF I don't think are included in
this particular batch.
But I think that's probably just as well because there's so many pages, but it would be helpful
to have them later.
That's my impression anyway.
The contents pages on page 33 of our pack, page 3 of the document, it lists the six chapters
ending with achieving net zero at page 54 of the document which is page 84 of our
pack but I don't have the appendices to follow. I think it might be helpful, I don't know.
Nickie Mackenzie-Daste, Officer - 0:25:27
Just going to confirm that the reason those annexes were not printed was
because they were so big and took up so much paper but there was a link provided
in the email that was sent round.
Councillor Joe Harris - 0:25:41
So in the written in the agenda as well just total clarity. Okay then, can I have a seconder?
I'll propose that as Mikey will enable Tristan to second, brilliant.
Here, if you could go to the vote then please.
That's unanimous, thank you very much.
Right then, we've now got the Cotswold National Landscape, also known as the AONB management plan.

11 Endorsement of the Cotswolds National Landscape (CNL) Management Plan 2025-2030

As we said, Councillor Layton and Hodgkinson will leave us when we come to debate and decide this,
but I'm absolutely content for them to be here while Juliet introduces this item.
Thank you.
Councillor Juliet Layton - 0:26:24
Yes, well this is put forward by the Cotswold National Landscape Board for
endorsement by this council. As you can see on the pages it's an evidence
base for the Bureau of the Local Plan, part of an evidence base for the
preparation of the neighbourhood development plans, part of evidence base
for the preparation and implementation of relevant council strategies, policies
and projects and as a material consideration of the determination of planning applications
where compatible and to inform the development and delivery of the Council's services and
activities. And it covers a five -year plan and the policies within it are ambitious and
they don't just cover or match our local plan policies because we are only one of 15 councils
that have got local plan policies so they're not all going to tie up. Our
policies override the policies in this although I don't think there's much to
be overridden actually they're all all very very clear. We've got our annexes in
here which will tell you all about the plan and the policies which is about
page 91 in our bundle. It addresses issues on climate change and it addresses
mitigation in farming, how we landscape management, sequestration of carbon,
talking things that we talk about a lot in the council of how we manage our
hedgerows and which has also been reflected in the item on the agenda
that we've just looked at, which works well with that
and matches that.
It talks about nature recovery across the Cotswolds,
public access to enhance rural, mental, physical,
and emotional benefit, all the ethos within the Cotswolds
national landscape and AONBs across the country.
And it's ensuring that all the activities in the Cotswolds
lot and landscape preserve, enhance its natural beauty and the special qualities of the Cotswold
National Landscape.
It's got back at the back of the page 80, which is 170 in our bundle, it also gives
us how they're going to monitor this and report back with that monitoring.
I thoroughly recommend it to you as to be endorsed
by the Cabinet, please.
Brilliant.
Thank you very much.
Paul, do you want to add anything to that?
Yeah, I'd love to second that.
Councillor Joe Harris - 0:29:13
I think that a huge amount of work -
Councillor Paul Hodgkinson - 0:29:15
Just a quick one.
I think as you two aren't allowed to vote on it,
Councillor Joe Harris - 0:29:18
I think you can't propose or second it.
So I'm more happy to hear some comments,
but I'm going to turf you out in a moment.
I won't be seconding it in that case.
Councillor Paul Hodgkinson - 0:29:26
So just in terms of what I was going to say,
I think a huge amount of work has gone into them.
You can see it.
The sheer detail, I mean, it is incredible.
And certainly at the regular meetings of the Cotswold
National Landscape Board, as Juliet and I go,
which we attend, this has been talked about a lot,
hasn't it?
It's been debated a lot.
So what you're ending up with is all of those board members
sort of feeding into this effectively.
this report.
I think there's two things to sort of point out.
Farming, lots on farming.
Farmers are under the caution at the moment.
They really are with so many things.
Not only the cost of living, tax changes, and, you know,
the fallout from Brexit, et cetera.
So there are so many things going on for farmers that
having something here which really tries to boost it in an
environmentally friendly way is so important, which leads me
then on to the climate emergency. As you said Joe, you know there are those siren
voices which are saying that we shouldn't be looking at the climate
emergency, it's all a waste of time. It isn't. We absolutely have to do this and
this report has incredible depth again and detail in how that can be mitigated
in the Cotswolds landscape. So again I absolutely endorse this.
Right, if I can ask you to both sit at the back of the room or vacate
Councillor Joe Harris - 0:30:49
it, basically away from
us fake hate so you can't pull faces at us and influence our debate.
So actually, well, in there, I'm happy to propose that. So, if we can get the ball
rolling, I'm happy to propose. Are there any comments or questions? Okay.
Mike, anything from you?
No.
Excellent. Well, you know, as we're flying through that,
I just wonder if our officers who've been working on this
would like to add anything.
I think it's all good.
Excellent. Okay, well, there we go. That was easy.
Cool. All right, then.
We'll go to the vote then, if that's okay.
Thank you very much.
That's unanimous.
Okay, brilliant.
That concludes our meeting.
Thank you very much.

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