Cabinet Member for Health, Culture and Visitor Experience Decision Meeting - Tuesday 25 February 2025, 2:00pm - Cotswold District Council Webcasting

Cabinet Member for Health, Culture and Visitor Experience Decision Meeting
Tuesday, 25th February 2025 at 2:00pm 

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Councillor Paul Hodgkinson - 0:00:13
Okay, welcome to this meeting.
So this is a cabinet member decision -making meeting with some specific goals attached
to it.
So first of all, do we have any apologies?
Well, I guess not because it is me and also the officer, Joseph Walker.
I'm assuming there's no one else that's given apologies.
No.
Okay.
All right.
So for those who may be watching now or at a later time, I'm Councillor Paul Hodgkinson.
I'm cabinet member for health leisure and the visitor experience, which includes culture.
And obviously today we're here to talk about something regarding culture and that is connected to the Corinium Museum.
We're here today to talk about specifically the deaccession as it's called of artifacts from the Corinium Museum.
So without further ado I'm going to ask Joseph Walker to take us through an
Officer - 0:01:25
overview of the report please. Thank You councillor Hodgkinson and yes so this
is a report on the deaccession of three artifacts from the museum and
deaccession is the technical term used within the museum community for
for disposing of artifacts from their collection.
So by disposal, I mean, removing from their ownership,
not necessarily getting rid as it were,
as the word might be used in common parlance.
So there is a formal process for this,
which was approved earlier this year
when the collections policy was approved by CDC's cabinet.
So that process is what has been followed
to get to this point and will be continued through the process of this decision.
Apologies for that, my computer is making funny noises.
So yeah, there are three items put forward by the museum director proposed for deaccession.
The first of these is, if we take these in turn and I'll explain each one,
the first is a Swayve Turner, which is a large piece of agricultural equipment,
which was given to the museum in the early 1980s. Whilst it is formerly part of the museum collection,
since its accession to the museum's collection of artifacts has actually been held and retained
off -site by the Science Museum who have acted as custodians of this item. And more recently,
the Science Museum has actually requested a permanent transfer of this item. The recommendation
is to agree with that request from the Science Museum, in part because they've already proven
themselves as an appropriate custodian for the item, but also they can offer it a good home,
as it were, a dry and well -maintained home where it can be well looked after.
Any alternative would have financial implications as the Carinium Museum does not have the facility to host this item.
Do you want to make the decisions each internal or all three at the end?
Councillor Paul Hodgkinson - 0:03:45
I think if we do as a whole three, that's my intention. Unless you're going to tell me something
remarkably different to what I've read in the report, then I'm happy to make the decision based on all three.
Thank you, Councillor Hodgkinson.
Officer - 0:03:56
Okay, so the second set of items then,
these are the Eastbury christening gowns.
So these are a number of local christening gowns,
which were given to the museum collection.
However, they've never been displayed
and are actually currently loaned out to the original donor
who has now requested their return.
So in terms of context for this,
The museum has in the past accepted items as sort of local, relatively recent historical local
interest. However, the Corinne Museum is principally an archaeological museum focusing on
Romano -British history and prehistory. So this is not an artifact that is ever likely to be displayed
within the museum context. Indeed, if it were presented today to the museum as potential to
be added to the collection, it's highly unlikely it would fit with our current policy on that
matter.
So again, the recommendation would be to return to the original donor.
And then finally, the slide collection, which is formerly, it's a number of hats which are
itemized in the attachment.
These are hats of sort of late 19th century, early 20th century social history value.
They are currently held within the museum's resource centre and as with the previous item have never been displayed by the museum.
And again in common with the item we've already covered under the current collections policy the museum would not have accepted these items.
Again, another point of similarity, in this instance the donors represented have also requested the return of these items.
So yeah, I don't think I have anything else to add but I am more than happy to take any questions.
Okay, thanks very much Joseph for taking us through those three things.
Councillor Paul Hodgkinson - 0:05:54
I think it is clear now, because one of the questions I had was exactly where are those three things, the three collections of things at the moment.
but you've made that clear to me I think the just to double -check is the sly
collection items that they at the Resource Center in North Leach or is
that a yes yeah great okay yeah no I've got no more questions so actually I will
happily now well actually according to the agenda I need to do a couple of
things before I make the decision is that correct yeah okay so public
questions well as far as I'm aware and cabinet member questions that's me yeah
so I have just done that okay so fine yeah I'm very interested in this
actually because there's I think the thing about the Carinia Museum is that
they are it's an absolute wealth of stuff isn't it and when you go to the
Resource Centre in North Leach, you see so much stuff there, it is incredible.
So the fact that they are thinking about what they need and what they don't need, I think
is a good thing.
In each case I'm very comfortable with the recommendation that they should, each of the
collections of items should go to the place that you've identified.
I just want to make one comment about the Sly collection.
I'm very familiar with the Sly family in North Leach.
Enid Sly is an amazing woman.
She's over 100 years old.
And I met her again a few months ago actually,
as I represent North Leech at County Council.
So, you know, the fact that there are all these things
connected with that family doesn't,
never really surprises me.
But they are absolutely amazing.
So, yeah, I'm very happy to go with the recommendation.
And that recommendation is that I, the cabinet member
for health, culture and the visitor experience resolve
to determine these proposals to dispose of the three items through deaccession and therefore
I am very happy to confirm that today.
If there is anything else to add to that, in which case that is the end of the meeting.
Thank you very much.