Planning and Licensing Committee - Wednesday 11 March 2026, 2:00pm - Cotswold District Council Webcasting

Planning and Licensing Committee
Wednesday, 11th March 2026 at 2:00pm 

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  1. Councillor Dilys Neill
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  4. Councillor Nick Bridges
  5. Councillor David Fowles
  6. Councillor Patrick Coleman
  7. Councillor Ray Brassington
  8. Councillor Julia Judd
  9. Councillor Daryl Corps
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  11. Legal Services
  12. Harrison Bowley, Planning
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  1. 04. To approve the minutes of a meeting held on 11 February 2026
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  3. 04. To approve the minutes of a meeting held on 11 February 2026
    Status: Ended
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  21. 08. 24/01563/LBC - Old Farm House, Preston - PERMIT
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  24. 08. 24/01563/LBC - Old Farm House, Preston - PERMIT
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Councillor Dilys Neill - 0:00:00
Councillor Dilys Neill - 0:00:05
Good afternoon and welcome to this meeting of the Council District Council's planning
committee. We have a short agenda this afternoon. Welcome to anybody who is listening in at
home. It is very good that you take the trouble to follow us. We are going to start by introducing
the members of the committee. I'm Dyliss Neil, Councillor Dyliss Neil, I'm the
Councillor for Stow on the World and I'm currently chair of the Planning
Councillor Dilys Neill - 0:00:39
Committee. Sorry, could members now introduce themselves?
Councillor Nick Bridges - 0:00:57
Councillor David Fowles - 0:01:02
Councillor Bridges, Watermore. Good afternoon
Councillor Patrick Coleman - 0:01:10
Councillor David Fowles, Colm Valley. Good afternoon
Councillor Ray Brassington - 0:01:15
Patrick Coleman, Stratton Ward. Councillor Ray Bruston, Sarensister.
Councillor Julia Judd - 0:01:18
Julia Chad Ermin
Councillor Daryl Corps - 0:01:26
Councillor Dilys Neill - 0:01:29
Daryl Corr all the way from Moreton in Marsh West wards
Through all the traffic lights at Stone, yes.
And now can the officers introduce themselves please.
Legal Services - 0:01:38
Harrison Bowley, Planning - 0:01:43
Good afternoon, Mari Barnes, Legal Advisor to this committee, thank you.
Harrison Boley, Head of Planning Services for Costage and Council.
Officer - 0:01:48
Charlotte Bowles Lewis, Conservation Consultant, Cotswold District Council.

1 Apologies

Councillor Dilys Neill - 0:01:53
Thank you very much.
Do we have any apologies for absence?
Julia Gibson, Officer - 0:02:00
Councillor Dilys Neill - 0:02:03
Yes we have apologies from Councillor Michael Bann.

2 Substitute Members

Any substitute members?

3 Declarations of Interest

No.
OK.
Are there any declarations of interest from members?
Councillor Ian Watson - 0:02:16
Councillor Watson. Thank you. Thank you chair. I and I think all of the members
and officers probably know the applicant on our case today. I don't think that
anybody's got any pecuniary interest in this case but we do know Mrs Spivey.
Legal Services - 0:02:43
Thank you, Councillor. As all members know, the applicant in this instance, the interest
is satisfactory. We can proceed, otherwise we wouldn't be able to function as a committee.
Councillor Dilys Neill - 0:02:58
Thank you. Thank you very much for that clarification.

4 Minutes

Moving on to the minutes. Does anyone have any comments on the minutes? I did notice
one typo on page 11. Sorry, I should have raised this before. Under members' questions
on page 11 it says the Stone Barn qualified conversion under Paraigarh 84 is a non -designated
charity asset. Which should be heritage asset. I can see that the spell cheque jumped in there.
A little bit of a gremlin. Anyone else notice anything that they would like to mention?
If not, can I have somebody propose that we accept the minutes?
Councillor Fowle, thank you very much.
Seconder?
Councillor Judd, thank you.
So we go to a vote on the minutes.
Councillor Dilys Neill - 0:04:25
Those minutes are accepted. Thank you very much.

5 Chair's Announcements

Moving rapidly onto Chair's announcement, Harrison has kindly agreed after this, when
we are no longer webcasting, that he will give us a briefing on a couple of appeals
which have come up recently. That will be a short briefing after this meeting. There
will also be some further member training. We've got some new members who have not done
the training, but everyone will be welcome to come to some further member training, which

6 Public questions

be in June. That's all the announcements that I have. Do we have any public questions?

7 Member questions

Schedule of Applications

Do we have any member questions? Great. So we'll move rapidly on to the schedule of applications.
So we just have one application before us now, which is to replace five windows on the
front elevation with a single glaze, timber windows,
and old farmhouse Preston, Cirencester.
The applicant is Mrs. Lisa Spivey.
The case officer is Charlotte Bowles Lewis.

8 24/01563/LBC - Old Farm House Preston Cirencester

The recommendation is to permit,
and it's been referred to committee
because Councillor Spivey is an elected member
of this council.
So can I ask Charlotte to do the presentation for us?
Officer - 0:05:54
Thank you very much chair. In terms of the application site it's one which you
may have sound familiar it's a site that we looked back in 2021 for replacement
windows which didn't include the front elevation so the applicant has come back
now to replace these with single glazed timber windows. The old farmhouse
is grade two listed and it's also in the Preston conservation area and there's a
map there you can see the outline as a building highlighted. In terms of the
windows it's the five to the principal elevation these are modern replacement
windows approximately 40 years old and were added prior to the building being
listed in 1986. And we have some elevations. At the side elevations these
were consented in 2021 for replacement windows and this is just an internal
view of the casement windows to the ground floor which also includes
shutters but those will remain in situ. And the proposal is to replace on a
like -for -like basis. So the existing windows will be single glazed, they'll follow the
same proportions of the windows and the glazing bar detail with a through
traditional detail that will be puttied. So we're replicating the details that
have previously been noted and this follows Historic England guidance in
terms of window replacement. So they have four categories which we now look at
we're assessing windows and this follows section two where it says where historic
windows have already been replaced with windows whose designs follow historic
patterns these make a positive contribution to the significance of the
listed building. Where they do they should be either retained and repaired
where possible or if beyond repair they should be replaced with accurate copies
which is happening in this instance. So the windows will follow the architectural
form of the historic building they'll be painted and constructed in hardwood
timber which accords with council guidelines and we now condition the use
of a sustainable hardwood timber as well as part of the application. The
application has been recommended for permission and I don't know if anyone
Councillor Dilys Neill - 0:08:34
has any questions regarding the proposals. Thank you very much for the
presentation. Councillor Fowles do you have a question?
Sorry, I should first of all say there are no speakers, so
straight on into the questions. Thank you.
Councillor David Fowles - 0:08:46
Could you just go back to the front elevation of the proposed windows?
No, not that one, the next one.
The drawing please.
The question I have is, I think, maybe you're wrong, is that drawing the same drawing that
is on the papers? The reason I ask the question is the roof bars on the current windows across
the middle are much thinner than the, I don't know what they call them, but the uprights.
and to me that looks like on that drawing that the cross bits, to a better expression,
are the same width as the bars, the crossbars are the same width as the bars going down,
or is that just some optical illusion? Are we replicating what's there at the moment,
which has thick uprights and quite thin bits across, or that to me looks like the uprights
and the down bars are the same size.
Just a question.
We are replicating what is there precisely.
So that is it.
We are replicating what is there.
So the image is a cropped image.
That's wrong, is it?
This is a cropped image out of the proposed plans.
Okay. So they will be thinner than the uprights.
So we have got a thin glazing bar.
And the second question is,
one of the things that you put in your report talked about,
I can't remember the detail,
about making sure that we... to do with climate change and energy efficiency.
The windows that have been replaced elsewhere on the side elevations were very...
they're double glazed, okay, but these are single glazed, yeah?
I just asked the question logically why, if you can get a double glazed window
that looks like a single glazed to work on a building of this type.
It just seems, was that in discussion with, is that the applicant's wish or did you discuss
the possibility of putting double glazing for energy efficiency reasons?
Just curious.
So we had very long discussions with the applicant, hence why it's taken a while to get to committee,
regarding the use of alternative glazing or double glazing and the applicant decided that
they didn't want to move forward with that and stick with single glazing.
So it is literally like for like single glazing.
So it is literally like for like single glazing.
And the third question, if you could bear my attention,
in some of our villages where we have design codes,
old village plans dating back to the year,
we have issues to do with the colour of the wood.
Is there any such thing in Preston?
Or will the applicant rather be replicating the colour
as well, because colour can be quite impactful.
I mean, in Down Antley, they have a blue
that's called co -op blue. Here in Sirencester we have obviously the Bathurst, is it green or cream
or green but whatever it is and I wondered whether there's anything in Preston that dictates colour
Officer - 0:11:56
or is it up to the applicant? There's no restrictions on colour in this particular conservation area
but the applicant is repainting them the same as what there is exactly at the moment. Thank you.
Councillor Dilys Neill - 0:12:08
Are there any other questions? Can I just ask, we've had a somewhat similar application
in my wood where it was a listed building and on the front elevation they weren't allowed,
on the rear elevation they were allowed to use double glazing, on the front elevation
they were told to use single glazing, but there was a specification that they used a
particular type of glass which was a much more energy efficient type of glass. Is there
Officer - 0:12:41
any discussion being had around that? I know nothing about glass. Yeah. We have
had conversations also about glazing because there's abundance of products on
the market for thermally efficient single glazed units and again the
applicant is quite happy with the traditional single glazed unit after a
Councillor Dilys Neill - 0:12:57
few months of discussion. Thank you very much. Does anyone want to make any
comments on this application? There are no further questions. Councillor Brasington. I'd like to
Councillor Ray Brassington - 0:13:06
Councillor Dilys Neill - 0:13:07
propose that we permit this application. Councillor Judd. I second Councillor
um...Brustington. Well done. Thank you very much. Councillor Fowle, do you have something else you'd like to comment?
Councillor David Fowles - 0:13:20
To the recommendation, I'd just like to make the comment that
given that there's a huge amount of work done in the industry trying to create windows that
are double -glazed that work on Grade 2 listed buildings, and we're committed to energy efficiency
and climate emergency, etc. I would just like to make the point that it does seem a little
strange, maybe cost driven, that the applicant who's a senior
Councillor Dilys Neill - 0:13:56
counsellor is not putting in double glazing. I just find it
strange. That's just my observation.
We had, I'm sure that Charlotte will tell us but she did she did
apply in the previous application. She puts in double
glazing at the back of her house, I understand, but wasn't
allowed to put in double glazing at the front.
Councillor David Fowles - 0:14:16
But now you can get windows that are very, very welded, aren't they?
I mean, looking at offices, you'd almost be hard pushed to know they're double glazed.
They work so well.
So much work has been done in terms of developing double glazing that works as replacement windows
on listed buildings in the Cotswolds.
Councillor Dilys Neill - 0:14:36
I know because I fitted them.
I'll pass that across to the officers.
Just making the comment.
Councillor David Fowles - 0:14:43
Would you like to respond to that?
There's a comment that we have to determine the application is in front of us.
I take the point, I get what you're saying, but yeah obviously from an official point of view
it's a yes or it's an acceptable or unacceptable in this view we're
recommending approval as the most acceptable. Thank you.
Councillor Dilys Neill - 0:15:01
Councillor Coleman would you like to make a comment?
Councillor Patrick Coleman - 0:15:06
Chair, at your discretion of course. It did look like an opportunity to see what the
current situation is in planning terms for listed buildings and double glazing because
I can remember back in the late 80s that there was a very firm view in North Brookshire,
which has almost as many listed buildings as Cotswold apparently, or so they claimed,
that they were very planning ... professionals were very much against this double glazing
because it clashed with the historic framework.
Now, the other reason I've heard it suggested that you get, and I'm sure I've seen it reports
here years ago, I think, the other problem with double glazing is you get a double reflection,
which is also incongruous or one of those other important planning words, which I do
respect, because I use them myself if I can.
So what is the current view amongst our officers as to whether those two issues can be overcome?
First of all, the clash of modern with old in double glazing, and secondly...
These are questions, we're on comments.
No, it's just taking advantage, we're going to have to sit here for a bit longer for the training.
I just thought, well, we're on the subject.
Councillor Dilys Neill - 0:16:25
Thank you.
I'll accept your written reply.
Councillor Patrick Coleman - 0:16:31
Do you want to respond to that now?
What I would suggest is no. Obviously we are assessing the application in front of us and
Harrison Bowley, Planning - 0:16:37
we have got what we propose. If there is a desire for wider training or a briefing on
the use of double glazing enlisted buildings or the approach, we could certainly set that
Councillor Dilys Neill - 0:16:49
up for members but I think that is probably for another time rather than for this discussion.
In fact, there is a thought that we will have a training on retrofit sometime later when
we've got the appropriate people to do the training.
So I think that would be when your question
would be answered to Councillor Coleman.
Is that reasonable to say?
Yes.
Good.
Thank you very much.
Does anyone else want to say anything
or should we proceed to the vote to permit this application?
Okay, can we...
Councillor Dilys Neill - 0:17:18
Of these five windows, thanks.
Councillor Dilys Neill - 0:17:37
That is unanimous.
That application is permitted.
That brings us to the end of our schedule of applications.

9 Sites Inspection Briefing

Moving on, there will be a site inspection briefing on Wednesday 1 April.
We are going to be looking at an application in Cerny Wick.
It will be a panel briefing.
The Councillors are required to be myself, Councillor Colman, Councillor Fowles, Councillor
Joe Harris and Councillor Judd.
If you are all available.
If not, we need to look for some.
The 1st of April at Cerny Wick.
OK.
Thank you very much.
I will leave a sub.
Sorry? You will need a sub?
Yes.
Does anyone else want to offer a sub at the moment?
Thanks.
Councillor Caulley?
Yes, great.
Thank you.
So Councillor Caulley is substituting, if he could be sent the details in that case.
Thank you very much.

10 Licensing Sub-Committee

And then a licencing subcommittee, at the moment it looks like there isn't a subcommittee required for the 26th of March.
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